Comments on: Why do Evanglicals Care More About Cussing than the Treatment of Women? http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2009/06/03/driscoll-the-explowhy-do-evanglicals-care-more-about-cussing-than-the-treatment-of-womeniter/ Where youthful Barthianism never dies Mon, 06 Feb 2012 21:24:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: R. Marhefka http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2009/06/03/driscoll-the-explowhy-do-evanglicals-care-more-about-cussing-than-the-treatment-of-womeniter/comment-page-1/#comment-9052 R. Marhefka Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:42:22 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=2417#comment-9052 "Here’s a link to a transcript of that sermon..." Thanks for the link. It still works. Talk about perverting the text. “Here’s a link to a transcript of that sermon…”

Thanks for the link.
It still works.
Talk about perverting the text.

]]> By: Ben Currin http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2009/06/03/driscoll-the-explowhy-do-evanglicals-care-more-about-cussing-than-the-treatment-of-womeniter/comment-page-1/#comment-8549 Ben Currin Wed, 10 Jun 2009 02:17:26 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=2417#comment-8549 Interesting stuff as usual, Halden. I agree with everyone here that Driscoll's way out of line here. What more is there to say? Interesting stuff as usual, Halden. I agree with everyone here that Driscoll’s way out of line here. What more is there to say?

]]> By: roger flyer http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2009/06/03/driscoll-the-explowhy-do-evanglicals-care-more-about-cussing-than-the-treatment-of-womeniter/comment-page-1/#comment-8533 roger flyer Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:46:06 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=2417#comment-8533 One more thing (and I'm obnoxiously aware of these things) I notice that you keep saying Mar's Hill...? I don't know if it's a grammatical error or a prophetic statement...Mars Hill would be the name, I think> Mar's Hill would be the reality. 'Mar'ring the humility of the gospel. One more thing (and I’m obnoxiously aware of these things) I notice that you keep saying Mar’s Hill…? I don’t know if it’s a grammatical error or a prophetic statement…Mars Hill would be the name, I think>

Mar’s Hill would be the reality. ‘Mar’ring the humility of the gospel.

]]> By: roger flyer http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2009/06/03/driscoll-the-explowhy-do-evanglicals-care-more-about-cussing-than-the-treatment-of-womeniter/comment-page-1/#comment-8532 roger flyer Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:42:28 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=2417#comment-8532 Halden- You are not 'well differentiated' about this, agreed? Cortney- You are a thoughtful and articulate soul who I pray will not give up on the male 'christian' populace. But I know your concern. I want to affirm that you have seen through the gambit (no small feat) and your eyes are wide open. Now listen to the lessons you've learned. I am a fan! Be wise as a serpent and gentle as a dove. Halden-

You are not ‘well differentiated’ about this, agreed?

Cortney-

You are a thoughtful and articulate soul who I pray will not give up on the male ‘christian’ populace. But I know your concern.

I want to affirm that you have seen through the gambit (no small feat) and your eyes are wide open.
Now listen to the lessons you’ve learned. I am a fan!

Be wise as a serpent and gentle as a dove.

]]> By: Halden http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2009/06/03/driscoll-the-explowhy-do-evanglicals-care-more-about-cussing-than-the-treatment-of-womeniter/comment-page-1/#comment-8529 Halden Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:25:24 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=2417#comment-8529 That interview is one of the creepiest things I've ever seen. The way he sat next to her on the couch, constantly facing her, neurotically grasping her led the whole time. Frightening. That interview is one of the creepiest things I’ve ever seen. The way he sat next to her on the couch, constantly facing her, neurotically grasping her led the whole time. Frightening.

]]> By: cortney http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2009/06/03/driscoll-the-explowhy-do-evanglicals-care-more-about-cussing-than-the-treatment-of-womeniter/comment-page-1/#comment-8526 cortney Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:27:57 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=2417#comment-8526 Thanks Roger, me too. From my experience it seems fairly easy to avoid pastors/churches with such bold and obvious misogynistic views and/or that seem to “know” so much. However a bit trickier to do so when it comes with the deep and historical foundation that the “church” (mainly evangelical) has been built upon. These views are taught in a less obvious manner, soaked in verbiage that clouds the message that men and women aren’t equally and a lot of time even goes unsaid and even assumed. It’s such establishments as these that are as, if not more hurtful then those like Mar’s Hill. I have found it extremely encouraging to read Halden’s blogs as well as the comments that follow. I’ve spent several years holding on to the hope that there’re men (I’ve found plenty of women)out there that are both confessed believers and see these absurdities. Believe it or not you’re few and far between or maybe I’ve just distanced myself excessively far from the “confessed believer” side of the male population. Either way it’s odd that even with my strong feminist views that the deep indoctrinate of male approval and guidance still has a hold on me, hence the desire for validation from the male population in my view. Ugh. Also since we’re all going on record here, although my original comment was very sarcastic…I do think that marriage, sex, and children are not to be taken lightly. They’re a beautiful, challenging, humbling and fun part of life that continues to grow us as individuals and a community. I as a feminist am grateful to the women who’ve gone before me, paving the path of many choices and in that would be honored to be a stay-at-home mother. I just don’t want to be told that is my only worth and duty. OH!! And I did watch an interview with Driscoll and his wife, they’re both truly sexist all the way around…I guess we can’t say they’re inconsistent. It was on stay-at-home fathers…and it made my stomach turn. Thanks Roger, me too.
From my experience it seems fairly easy to avoid pastors/churches with such bold and obvious misogynistic views and/or that seem to “know” so much. However a bit trickier to do so when it comes with the deep and historical foundation that the “church” (mainly evangelical) has been built upon. These views are taught in a less obvious manner, soaked in verbiage that clouds the message that men and women aren’t equally and a lot of time even goes unsaid and even assumed. It’s such establishments as these that are as, if not more hurtful then those like Mar’s Hill. I have found it extremely encouraging to read Halden’s blogs as well as the comments that follow. I’ve spent several years holding on to the hope that there’re men (I’ve found plenty of women)out there that are both confessed believers and see these absurdities. Believe it or not you’re few and far between or maybe I’ve just distanced myself excessively far from the “confessed believer” side of the male population. Either way it’s odd that even with my strong feminist views that the deep indoctrinate of male approval and guidance still has a hold on me, hence the desire for validation from the male population in my view. Ugh.

Also since we’re all going on record here, although my original comment was very sarcastic…I do think that marriage, sex, and children are not to be taken lightly. They’re a beautiful, challenging, humbling and fun part of life that continues to grow us as individuals and a community. I as a feminist am grateful to the women who’ve gone before me, paving the path of many choices and in that would be honored to be a stay-at-home mother. I just don’t want to be told that is my only worth and duty. OH!! And I did watch an interview with Driscoll and his wife, they’re both truly sexist all the way around…I guess we can’t say they’re inconsistent. It was on stay-at-home fathers…and it made my stomach turn.

]]> By: roger flyer http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2009/06/03/driscoll-the-explowhy-do-evanglicals-care-more-about-cussing-than-the-treatment-of-womeniter/comment-page-1/#comment-8522 roger flyer Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:52:17 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=2417#comment-8522 For the record 2- Halden Maybe ironic was a poor word choice. Sarcastic would be better. Cortney I'm grateful that you kept your faith. For the record, hyper-pastor leaders like Driscoll end up doing a lot of damage to people's souls. My advice: If you are in a church where the 'pastor' speaker thinks they know as much as he does, RUN away very fast. For the record 2-
Halden
Maybe ironic was a poor word choice. Sarcastic would be better.
Cortney
I’m grateful that you kept your faith.

For the record, hyper-pastor leaders like Driscoll end up doing a lot of damage to people’s souls. My advice: If you are in a church where the ‘pastor’ speaker thinks they know as much as he does, RUN away very fast.

]]> By: Halden http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2009/06/03/driscoll-the-explowhy-do-evanglicals-care-more-about-cussing-than-the-treatment-of-womeniter/comment-page-1/#comment-8518 Halden Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:16:00 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=2417#comment-8518 I think the big words like "ironic" and "insinuate" confused my block head. I think the big words like “ironic” and “insinuate” confused my block head.

]]> By: roger flyer http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2009/06/03/driscoll-the-explowhy-do-evanglicals-care-more-about-cussing-than-the-treatment-of-womeniter/comment-page-1/#comment-8514 roger flyer Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:51:55 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=2417#comment-8514 Cortney and Halden- Come on you guys! Was my sarcasm not as dripping as Cortney's? For the record-- '...there are doubtless 300 young single men waiting for you at Mars Hill (or 10,000 on Craig’s List or whatever dating service you should happen to join) if you are willing to ‘please’ him as you insinuate..." This is not a GOOD thing! Cortney and Halden-

Come on you guys! Was my sarcasm not as dripping as Cortney’s? For the record–

‘…there are doubtless 300 young single men waiting for you at Mars Hill (or 10,000 on Craig’s List or whatever dating service you should happen to join) if you are willing to ‘please’ him as you insinuate…”

This is not a GOOD thing!

]]> By: Cortney http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2009/06/03/driscoll-the-explowhy-do-evanglicals-care-more-about-cussing-than-the-treatment-of-womeniter/comment-page-1/#comment-8510 Cortney Mon, 08 Jun 2009 03:40:45 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=2417#comment-8510 Okay now it’s really funny because what a really meant to say was misogynistic bath water…woops. I guess I can see how both could work. I’m a huge dork and this wifi isn't really working. Okay now it’s really funny because what a really meant to say was misogynistic bath water…woops. I guess I can see how both could work. I’m a huge dork and this wifi isn’t really working.

]]> By: Cortney http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2009/06/03/driscoll-the-explowhy-do-evanglicals-care-more-about-cussing-than-the-treatment-of-womeniter/comment-page-1/#comment-8508 Cortney Mon, 08 Jun 2009 03:20:20 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=2417#comment-8508 oops not sure how that posted three time, sorry. oops not sure how that posted three time, sorry.

]]> By: Cortney http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2009/06/03/driscoll-the-explowhy-do-evanglicals-care-more-about-cussing-than-the-treatment-of-womeniter/comment-page-1/#comment-8506 Cortney Mon, 08 Jun 2009 03:19:08 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=2417#comment-8506 Yes I very much was...my apologies for the confusion. Sadly enough I attended Mar's Hill a few times when I was going to community college. Uhhh NO THANKS. If that was the kind of man I was looking for I would have been married with three little children just out of high school. Instead have found the topic so incredibly sicking that I almost through my amazing, precious, loving, savor/faith out with the masochistic bath water. Sincerely, The ironic feminist Yes I very much was…my apologies for the confusion. Sadly enough I attended Mar’s Hill a few times when I was going to community college. Uhhh NO THANKS. If that was the kind of man I was looking for I would have been married with three little children just out of high school. Instead have found the topic so incredibly sicking that I almost through my amazing, precious, loving, savor/faith out with the masochistic bath water.

Sincerely,
The ironic feminist

]]> By: roger flyer http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2009/06/03/driscoll-the-explowhy-do-evanglicals-care-more-about-cussing-than-the-treatment-of-womeniter/comment-page-1/#comment-8497 roger flyer Mon, 08 Jun 2009 01:46:47 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=2417#comment-8497 Damn. This is why my hyphenated name doesn't connect with people! Damn. This is why my hyphenated name doesn’t connect with people!

]]> By: roger flyer http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2009/06/03/driscoll-the-explowhy-do-evanglicals-care-more-about-cussing-than-the-treatment-of-womeniter/comment-page-1/#comment-8495 roger flyer Mon, 08 Jun 2009 01:45:38 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=2417#comment-8495 Mars Hills girls beg to differ. Mars Hills girls beg to differ.

]]> By: roger flyer http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2009/06/03/driscoll-the-explowhy-do-evanglicals-care-more-about-cussing-than-the-treatment-of-womeniter/comment-page-1/#comment-8494 roger flyer Mon, 08 Jun 2009 01:45:18 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=2417#comment-8494 Uhhhnnnhhh...you think so? Uhhhnnnhhh…you think so?

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