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	<title>Comments on: Evangelicals and Epistemology</title>
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	<description>Where youthful Barthianism never dies</description>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2009/06/13/evangelicals-and-epistemology/comment-page-1/#comment-8710</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles Taylor develops this theme extensively in A Secular Age - modern evangelicalism buys into the framework of modernity wholesale. This is probably why evangelicals get so worked up about post-modernity ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles Taylor develops this theme extensively in A Secular Age &#8211; modern evangelicalism buys into the framework of modernity wholesale. This is probably why evangelicals get so worked up about post-modernity ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Woods</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian Woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 06:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the sounds of it, Yoder hits at a concept developed by William Abraham in &quot;Canon and Criterion&quot;: that is modern theologies obsession with prolegammena and the attempt to turn the canonical tradition into an epistemological criterion.  However, this is not a mark against epistemology as a discipline or a valid domain of inquiry, rather a slap on the hand of theologians who don&#039;t take the time to get up-to-date on contemporary analytic epistemology.

See Abraham&#039;s essay &quot;Systematic Theology as Analytic Theology&quot; in Michael Rea new collection &quot;Analytic Theology.&quot;  Here Abraham makes a plug for a new domain in theological studies called &quot;The Epistemology of Theology.&quot;

Good Stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the sounds of it, Yoder hits at a concept developed by William Abraham in &#8220;Canon and Criterion&#8221;: that is modern theologies obsession with prolegammena and the attempt to turn the canonical tradition into an epistemological criterion.  However, this is not a mark against epistemology as a discipline or a valid domain of inquiry, rather a slap on the hand of theologians who don&#8217;t take the time to get up-to-date on contemporary analytic epistemology.</p>
<p>See Abraham&#8217;s essay &#8220;Systematic Theology as Analytic Theology&#8221; in Michael Rea new collection &#8220;Analytic Theology.&#8221;  Here Abraham makes a plug for a new domain in theological studies called &#8220;The Epistemology of Theology.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good Stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Skip Newby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skip Newby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 00:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t have said it better myself Halden. Let&#039;s don&#039;t jump to self-righteousness too quickly though. If our primary focus is intellectually &quot;knowing&quot; Christ, and digging, digging, and digging some more, we are being as epistemologically reasonable as those we indict. It&#039;s about &quot;knowing&quot; Him in a love relationship.

Peace, Skip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t have said it better myself Halden. Let&#8217;s don&#8217;t jump to self-righteousness too quickly though. If our primary focus is intellectually &#8220;knowing&#8221; Christ, and digging, digging, and digging some more, we are being as epistemologically reasonable as those we indict. It&#8217;s about &#8220;knowing&#8221; Him in a love relationship.</p>
<p>Peace, Skip.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite right, Paul.  Raised in that tradition, I can certainly vouch for what you say here.

Fundamentalist inerrancy, a combination of Scottish Common Sense Reason and Baconian science, reduced Scripture to a &quot;storehouse of facts&quot; (Charles Hodge) and did for Scripture in the beliefs and practices of modern preachers what was done to the created order in the eyes of scientists: allowed humanity to be master.  

And this is an essential element of idolatry - to put parameters around God&#039;s identity and action such that we can be in control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite right, Paul.  Raised in that tradition, I can certainly vouch for what you say here.</p>
<p>Fundamentalist inerrancy, a combination of Scottish Common Sense Reason and Baconian science, reduced Scripture to a &#8220;storehouse of facts&#8221; (Charles Hodge) and did for Scripture in the beliefs and practices of modern preachers what was done to the created order in the eyes of scientists: allowed humanity to be master.  </p>
<p>And this is an essential element of idolatry &#8211; to put parameters around God&#8217;s identity and action such that we can be in control.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This quote puts into words what I&#039;ve struggled to express myself. The obsession with &quot;inerrancy&quot; or &quot;verbal plenary inspiration&quot; is just a disguised attempt to make the science of theology seem more safe. And Christianity is never safe.

I always thought the epistemology of conservative evangelicalism had more in common with logical positivism myself - &quot;if the Bible isn&#039;t historically and scientifically accurate through and through, there&#039;s no use in building a systematic theology upon it.&quot;

Isn&#039;t Robert Jenson occasionally guilty of this too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This quote puts into words what I&#8217;ve struggled to express myself. The obsession with &#8220;inerrancy&#8221; or &#8220;verbal plenary inspiration&#8221; is just a disguised attempt to make the science of theology seem more safe. And Christianity is never safe.</p>
<p>I always thought the epistemology of conservative evangelicalism had more in common with logical positivism myself &#8211; &#8220;if the Bible isn&#8217;t historically and scientifically accurate through and through, there&#8217;s no use in building a systematic theology upon it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t Robert Jenson occasionally guilty of this too?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Rowell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Rowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of these two quotes from MacIntyre who also critiques the obsession with finding an epistemological starting place--saying this was not at all Aquinas&#039;s purpose but rather later &quot;Thomists.&quot;    

&quot;The whole epistemological turn of philosophy is thus from this point of view the outcome of a mistake.&quot; 

&quot;And in so doing they doomed Thomism to the fate of all philosophies which give priority to epistemological questions: the indefinite multiplication of disagreement.  There are just too many alternative ways to begin.&quot;  

Alasdair MacIntyre, Three Rival Version of Moral Inquiry: Encyclopaedia, Genealogy, and Tradition (Notre Dame:  University of Notre Dame Press, 1990), 69, 75.

I&#039;m curious about Wheaton College professor W. Jay Wood&#039;s book Epistemology: Becoming Intellectually Virtuous (Contours of Christian Philosophy) (InterVarsity Press, 1998) after reading Wood&#039;s rather critical review of USC philosopher Dallas Willard&#039;s new book in this month&#039;s issue of Christianity Today.  

More Than Deep Feelings
Dallas Willard argues that we really can know Christ.
W. Jay Wood &#124; posted 6/09/2009 
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2009/june/18.55.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of these two quotes from MacIntyre who also critiques the obsession with finding an epistemological starting place&#8211;saying this was not at all Aquinas&#8217;s purpose but rather later &#8220;Thomists.&#8221;    </p>
<p>&#8220;The whole epistemological turn of philosophy is thus from this point of view the outcome of a mistake.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;And in so doing they doomed Thomism to the fate of all philosophies which give priority to epistemological questions: the indefinite multiplication of disagreement.  There are just too many alternative ways to begin.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Alasdair MacIntyre, Three Rival Version of Moral Inquiry: Encyclopaedia, Genealogy, and Tradition (Notre Dame:  University of Notre Dame Press, 1990), 69, 75.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious about Wheaton College professor W. Jay Wood&#8217;s book Epistemology: Becoming Intellectually Virtuous (Contours of Christian Philosophy) (InterVarsity Press, 1998) after reading Wood&#8217;s rather critical review of USC philosopher Dallas Willard&#8217;s new book in this month&#8217;s issue of Christianity Today.  </p>
<p>More Than Deep Feelings<br />
Dallas Willard argues that we really can know Christ.<br />
W. Jay Wood | posted 6/09/2009<br />
<a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2009/june/18.55.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2009/june/18.55.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: mike d</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is undoubtedly correct and I say that as someone who gladly drinks from the epistemological well often.

Do you know who (or what trends, theories, concepts) he would have had in mind when writing this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is undoubtedly correct and I say that as someone who gladly drinks from the epistemological well often.</p>
<p>Do you know who (or what trends, theories, concepts) he would have had in mind when writing this?</p>
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