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		<title>By: Scott Coulter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Coulter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Andy: I am Mennonite; we might be in the same denomination if that&#039;s what you mean.  But we aren&#039;t in the same local congregation (unless you&#039;re using an assumed name online).  There are only about 50 or 60 people in our congregation at present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Andy: I am Mennonite; we might be in the same denomination if that&#8217;s what you mean.  But we aren&#8217;t in the same local congregation (unless you&#8217;re using an assumed name online).  There are only about 50 or 60 people in our congregation at present.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Alexis-Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Alexis-Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 03:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, in King&#039;s case, the Birmingham police deliberately decided not to use violence  so that the out-of-state news media would not be able to broadcast more beatings and such things, which always brought more sympathy for African Americans than agreement with southern white establishment.

Part of King&#039;s strategy was to provoke the system to use violence, have the media there to record it, then broadcast it and get sympathy from those who could help influence a change. Those places that did not use overt violence against the demonstrators, such as Chicago, effectively stopped the campaigns through bureaucratic means. In Chicago, the problems were every bit as deep as in the South, but the administration knew better than to unleash dogs on kids. They just held press conferences and congratulated King for showing them problems, then never did a thing. To this day many of the issues King wanted to help alleviate are a major problem there (I am from Chicago originally). This also happened in Selma, The police chief actually read Gandhi before the protesters came. Civil Rights in that city took much longer as a result.

Thus in the Birmingham jail, he said that indeed the police had been &quot;rather nonviolent&quot; in handling the protesters, then denounced them for doing it for the cynical reason of upholding Jim Crow: no problem here ladies and gentlemen. Just these rowdy, illegal protesters whom we have to sweep up and keep out of people&#039;s way.

I&#039;d say that if and when any police force does such things they do it for cynical reasons of upholding their unjust system (and all governments are unjust...a la Barth, Epistle to the Romans). I think we might be in the same church Scott...you are Mennonite right? WE got idiotic Mennonites who advocate, help develop, etc. for nonlethal weapons for police and such as a *more effective tool* for the government. They are right about it being more effective probably, but that is the problem. I don&#039;t want a tighter grip! Mennonites irritate me to no end when they do this sort of thing.

Regarding Wink: I have serious doubts about his reading of the Sermon on the Mount. I do not know of any biblical scholar who takes that seriously. But there may be some. I just don&#039;t know of any.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, in King&#8217;s case, the Birmingham police deliberately decided not to use violence  so that the out-of-state news media would not be able to broadcast more beatings and such things, which always brought more sympathy for African Americans than agreement with southern white establishment.</p>
<p>Part of King&#8217;s strategy was to provoke the system to use violence, have the media there to record it, then broadcast it and get sympathy from those who could help influence a change. Those places that did not use overt violence against the demonstrators, such as Chicago, effectively stopped the campaigns through bureaucratic means. In Chicago, the problems were every bit as deep as in the South, but the administration knew better than to unleash dogs on kids. They just held press conferences and congratulated King for showing them problems, then never did a thing. To this day many of the issues King wanted to help alleviate are a major problem there (I am from Chicago originally). This also happened in Selma, The police chief actually read Gandhi before the protesters came. Civil Rights in that city took much longer as a result.</p>
<p>Thus in the Birmingham jail, he said that indeed the police had been &#8220;rather nonviolent&#8221; in handling the protesters, then denounced them for doing it for the cynical reason of upholding Jim Crow: no problem here ladies and gentlemen. Just these rowdy, illegal protesters whom we have to sweep up and keep out of people&#8217;s way.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say that if and when any police force does such things they do it for cynical reasons of upholding their unjust system (and all governments are unjust&#8230;a la Barth, Epistle to the Romans). I think we might be in the same church Scott&#8230;you are Mennonite right? WE got idiotic Mennonites who advocate, help develop, etc. for nonlethal weapons for police and such as a *more effective tool* for the government. They are right about it being more effective probably, but that is the problem. I don&#8217;t want a tighter grip! Mennonites irritate me to no end when they do this sort of thing.</p>
<p>Regarding Wink: I have serious doubts about his reading of the Sermon on the Mount. I do not know of any biblical scholar who takes that seriously. But there may be some. I just don&#8217;t know of any.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Coulter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Coulter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree--you can use nonviolence immorally.
However, I don&#039;t know that I&#039;d go so far as to say that using a commitment nonviolence as an excuse to perpetuate a systemic evil is worse than using violence to attempt to get rid of that evil.  (Which may be different than what Dr. King meant in Andy&#039;s quoting of him.)  Part of my commitment to nonviolence applies to the way I do interpersonal politics, in family relationships, other personal relationships, or in congregations and church systems.  I have some pretty strong opinions about policies and practices in my church--local and national--that are unjust; but even if I have to wait longer, even without guarantee that those practices will end, by remaining committed to nonviolence, I&#039;m not going to violate that commitment.  My commitment to nonviolence isn&#039;t (purely or ultimately) pragmatic.

I haven&#039;t read much of anything of Wink, honestly.  I&#039;d be interested to read more about Marva Dawn&#039;s criticisms, also.  One of my early hear-say exposures to Wink was to his way of reading nonviolent resistance teachings into the Sermon on the Mount - &quot;going the second mile&quot;, &quot;turning the other cheek&quot;, &quot;giving your tunic as well&quot;.  Is that also total crap in your opinion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree&#8211;you can use nonviolence immorally.<br />
However, I don&#8217;t know that I&#8217;d go so far as to say that using a commitment nonviolence as an excuse to perpetuate a systemic evil is worse than using violence to attempt to get rid of that evil.  (Which may be different than what Dr. King meant in Andy&#8217;s quoting of him.)  Part of my commitment to nonviolence applies to the way I do interpersonal politics, in family relationships, other personal relationships, or in congregations and church systems.  I have some pretty strong opinions about policies and practices in my church&#8211;local and national&#8211;that are unjust; but even if I have to wait longer, even without guarantee that those practices will end, by remaining committed to nonviolence, I&#8217;m not going to violate that commitment.  My commitment to nonviolence isn&#8217;t (purely or ultimately) pragmatic.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read much of anything of Wink, honestly.  I&#8217;d be interested to read more about Marva Dawn&#8217;s criticisms, also.  One of my early hear-say exposures to Wink was to his way of reading nonviolent resistance teachings into the Sermon on the Mount &#8211; &#8220;going the second mile&#8221;, &#8220;turning the other cheek&#8221;, &#8220;giving your tunic as well&#8221;.  Is that also total crap in your opinion?</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 03:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hoist with my own petard. This was beautiful, Daniel.</description>
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		<title>By: Daniel Imburgia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Imburgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>trouble posting the link, sorry.
&quot;www.AnarchoZuni/Gyneco-Papal--all_power_to the_Soviets=LubavitcherUtopia.Tampax.com&quot;</description>
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&#8220;www.AnarchoZuni/Gyneco-Papal&#8211;all_power_to the_Soviets=LubavitcherUtopia.Tampax.com&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Imburgia</title>
		<link>http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2009/10/01/democracys-false-humility/comment-page-1/#comment-11305</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Imburgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, the link is    Obliged</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, the link is    Obliged</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Imburgia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Imburgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, said “I question the sincerity of your admiration of tribal councils. This strikes me as just hipster-Iroquois-chic posturing.”  Yes, you have found me out James, I can’t tell you how often I have picked up hot chicks at the clubs with a line like, ‘No I don’t come here often, but the Corn-Mothers have reached a consensus and have given me permission to seek-out and copulate-with a mate outside the tribe, provided she is willing to have her genitals inspected by them and undergo a 9 day ritual of purification.’  But, seriously, no, I am not “pretty content” with American ‘democracy’ (youall still haven’t explained what you mean by ‘democracy&#039;).  I am merely suggesting that other models have existed (without perfection) and may be preferable in whole or part.  For example, one could easily imagine a system informed by systematically working thru the political-theology of how Papal Infallibility functions as a mode of affirming revealed Truth of the Church in the world, from the bottom up, (contra popular understanding) to establish parameters of social practice (as Carl Schmitt argued, all political models are secularized theological models), animated with the work-a-day practicality of the pre-Stalinist Soviets, de-limited by the critical energy of Anarchism, balanced by the theocratic Ashiwani of Zuni councils, as guided by the wisdom of the Talmud, as articulated by post-temple Qumranic-Lubavithchers, with the whole kaboodle submitted to the final authority of post--menopausal Women.   (see the site    for a more comprehensive manifesto,  Obliged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, said “I question the sincerity of your admiration of tribal councils. This strikes me as just hipster-Iroquois-chic posturing.”  Yes, you have found me out James, I can’t tell you how often I have picked up hot chicks at the clubs with a line like, ‘No I don’t come here often, but the Corn-Mothers have reached a consensus and have given me permission to seek-out and copulate-with a mate outside the tribe, provided she is willing to have her genitals inspected by them and undergo a 9 day ritual of purification.’  But, seriously, no, I am not “pretty content” with American ‘democracy’ (youall still haven’t explained what you mean by ‘democracy&#8217;).  I am merely suggesting that other models have existed (without perfection) and may be preferable in whole or part.  For example, one could easily imagine a system informed by systematically working thru the political-theology of how Papal Infallibility functions as a mode of affirming revealed Truth of the Church in the world, from the bottom up, (contra popular understanding) to establish parameters of social practice (as Carl Schmitt argued, all political models are secularized theological models), animated with the work-a-day practicality of the pre-Stalinist Soviets, de-limited by the critical energy of Anarchism, balanced by the theocratic Ashiwani of Zuni councils, as guided by the wisdom of the Talmud, as articulated by post-temple Qumranic-Lubavithchers, with the whole kaboodle submitted to the final authority of post&#8211;menopausal Women.   (see the site    for a more comprehensive manifesto,  Obliged.</p>
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		<title>By: roger flyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>roger flyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wink.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must admit that when the intended text showed up hyperlinked even I couldn&#039;t resist. That was a bit embarrassing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must admit that when the intended text showed up hyperlinked even I couldn&#8217;t resist. That was a bit embarrassing.</p>
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		<title>By: Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was severely disappointed to find that the website linked above was not real.</description>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I question the sincerity of your admiration of tribal councils. This strikes me as just hipster-Iroquois-chic posturing. Until you get a website like www.bringbacktheIroquoiscouncil.org with complete links to &#039;running the gaunlet&#039; and such I&#039;d say your probably pretty content with what we call Western democracy.

I really don&#039;t think the issue with the comment is not being able to imagine an alternative to democracy, but rather misusing the phrase to advocate the status quo versus other forms of representation or governance WITHIN democracy (supermajorities, federal vs. state, lack of minority parties representation, etc.)  If the phrase is thrown out to say well your just going to have to get the votes in this system perhaps it is a lazy power play. But some sort of patriotic triumphalism, it is not. Generally both parties aren&#039;t contemplating the Zuni council.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I question the sincerity of your admiration of tribal councils. This strikes me as just hipster-Iroquois-chic posturing. Until you get a website like <a href="http://www.bringbacktheIroquoiscouncil.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.bringbacktheIroquoiscouncil.org</a> with complete links to &#8216;running the gaunlet&#8217; and such I&#8217;d say your probably pretty content with what we call Western democracy.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t think the issue with the comment is not being able to imagine an alternative to democracy, but rather misusing the phrase to advocate the status quo versus other forms of representation or governance WITHIN democracy (supermajorities, federal vs. state, lack of minority parties representation, etc.)  If the phrase is thrown out to say well your just going to have to get the votes in this system perhaps it is a lazy power play. But some sort of patriotic triumphalism, it is not. Generally both parties aren&#8217;t contemplating the Zuni council.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comments I think have pretty clearly fallen into the category of plausible explanations of what is wrong about this characterization of democracy.  It&#039;s the accusation of being patronizing or having a false humility that I think is somewhat vague and more rhetorically useful than really meaningfully helpful.  Actually, I think it attempts the same sort of power play that you&#039;re saying the Churchillian statement does, simply against democracy rather than for it.  But a statement arguing that part of democracy&#039;s goodness is the badness of other options seems pretty straightforward to me.  And it might be total crap, but I don&#039;t see why it&#039;s any more harmful than other political arguments.  All one has to say is, &quot;actually, x, y, or z are preferable to democracy&quot; or &quot;actually, x is the worst form of government except for all the others (including democracy)&quot;, etc.  Seems simple enough to me.  What makes something like this concealing or based on false pretense is its reception by people and the assumptions that allow it to turn into something that feigns humility.  But I think the statement in itself is pretty mundane, and pretty genuinely humble.  Presumably one could reasonably believe that democracy (or anything else) is the least of a number of evils, right?  That&#039;s all I&#039;m saying.  I&#039;m not trying to dispute some of the critiques of democratic apologetics that are being offered here, only the insistence on the basic inherent inadequacy of a statement like Churchill&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comments I think have pretty clearly fallen into the category of plausible explanations of what is wrong about this characterization of democracy.  It&#8217;s the accusation of being patronizing or having a false humility that I think is somewhat vague and more rhetorically useful than really meaningfully helpful.  Actually, I think it attempts the same sort of power play that you&#8217;re saying the Churchillian statement does, simply against democracy rather than for it.  But a statement arguing that part of democracy&#8217;s goodness is the badness of other options seems pretty straightforward to me.  And it might be total crap, but I don&#8217;t see why it&#8217;s any more harmful than other political arguments.  All one has to say is, &#8220;actually, x, y, or z are preferable to democracy&#8221; or &#8220;actually, x is the worst form of government except for all the others (including democracy)&#8221;, etc.  Seems simple enough to me.  What makes something like this concealing or based on false pretense is its reception by people and the assumptions that allow it to turn into something that feigns humility.  But I think the statement in itself is pretty mundane, and pretty genuinely humble.  Presumably one could reasonably believe that democracy (or anything else) is the least of a number of evils, right?  That&#8217;s all I&#8217;m saying.  I&#8217;m not trying to dispute some of the critiques of democratic apologetics that are being offered here, only the insistence on the basic inherent inadequacy of a statement like Churchill&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: d barber</title>
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		<dc:creator>d barber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very much agreed.  Another way of putting my problem with the Churchill statement is that requires a cessation of imagination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very much agreed.  Another way of putting my problem with the Churchill statement is that requires a cessation of imagination.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Imburgia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Imburgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess a definition of &#039;democracy&#039; is commonly understood by youall.  Anyway, I would venture that some of the matrilineal, Native-American peoples, from Zuni to Iroquois, practiced forms of social life and decision making that I find admirable and worthy of emulation (even preferable!).  That folks (Christian?) can&#039;t even imagine another form of govt. may suggest how much dominant ideologies have been interpolated, not that we have reached the &quot;End&quot; of (Fukuyama&#039;s) &quot;History.&quot;  Obliged</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess a definition of &#8216;democracy&#8217; is commonly understood by youall.  Anyway, I would venture that some of the matrilineal, Native-American peoples, from Zuni to Iroquois, practiced forms of social life and decision making that I find admirable and worthy of emulation (even preferable!).  That folks (Christian?) can&#8217;t even imagine another form of govt. may suggest how much dominant ideologies have been interpolated, not that we have reached the &#8220;End&#8221; of (Fukuyama&#8217;s) &#8220;History.&#8221;  Obliged</p>
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		<title>By: d barber</title>
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		<dc:creator>d barber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evan, To be clear: i don&#039;t think it&#039;s false humility or patronizing. What&#039;s at stake are the effects produced by the peculiar way in which Churchill&#039;s statement is forumlated -- such that it maintains the hegemony of actually existing democracy not by saying that one should believe in it, but that one should not believe in anything else.  

Which is something, in my mind, far more harmful than condescension.  It is an active consturction of political power that conceals its activity.  It wins the game by setting the game up such that any competitors are initially disqualified.

Now I don&#039;t know if you have me in mind in with &quot;vague and angsty&quot; claim, but I would hope that my other comments, and certainly this one, are pretty clear and analytical.  My sentiment is not bruised, I just think Churchill&#039;s statement produces bad effects.  

I&#039;d be happy for you to address any claims i am clearly making, but &quot;vague and angsty&quot;, if it is indeed aimed at me, seems patronizing itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evan, To be clear: i don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s false humility or patronizing. What&#8217;s at stake are the effects produced by the peculiar way in which Churchill&#8217;s statement is forumlated &#8212; such that it maintains the hegemony of actually existing democracy not by saying that one should believe in it, but that one should not believe in anything else.  </p>
<p>Which is something, in my mind, far more harmful than condescension.  It is an active consturction of political power that conceals its activity.  It wins the game by setting the game up such that any competitors are initially disqualified.</p>
<p>Now I don&#8217;t know if you have me in mind in with &#8220;vague and angsty&#8221; claim, but I would hope that my other comments, and certainly this one, are pretty clear and analytical.  My sentiment is not bruised, I just think Churchill&#8217;s statement produces bad effects.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be happy for you to address any claims i am clearly making, but &#8220;vague and angsty&#8221;, if it is indeed aimed at me, seems patronizing itself.</p>
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