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	<description>Where youthful Barthianism never dies</description>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a curious little book. Haha. It&#039;s a fierce little polemic, and strangely left cast aside by all but a few theologians, and people like Lewis and Hall definitely seem(ed) to be the most recent holdouts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a curious little book. Haha. It&#8217;s a fierce little polemic, and strangely left cast aside by all but a few theologians, and people like Lewis and Hall definitely seem(ed) to be the most recent holdouts.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Daryl Meyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Daryl Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in an AAR session of the Society for Scriptural Reasoning a few years ago and heard something on the body of Christ that has trolled my thoughts ever since. 

The conversation turned to the Eucharist, and several of the Jewish folks present were making comments about eucharist-ish elements of Jewish life and worship in an appreciative manner. One Christian fellow made some fairly benign comment about the body metaphor in this connection, and pretty quickly a Jewish woman stood and suggested that &quot;body&quot; imagery tends to make Jews very nervous. This was confirmed by several of the other Jewish folks in the room. 

I took that nervousness to be rooted in memories of Christendom (and the vestiges of Christendom) in which Jews, as paradigmatic others, are seen as a contagion, a foreign body to be expelled from &quot;the body.&quot; 

Ever since, I&#039;ve thought that it would be worthwhile to think carefully through the body metaphor in relationship to continuity/discontinuity between the people of God in the church and the people of God in Israel. Particularly in the theological connection between the Jewish body of Jesus (circumcised and baptized by John) and the mystical body of Christ in the church. 

Jenson has some comments in a Pro Ecclesia article from a few years back that regard the metaphor as a positive site for overcoming supercessionistic thinking, but I&#039;ve seen little else (not that I&#039;ve been looking &lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt; hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in an AAR session of the Society for Scriptural Reasoning a few years ago and heard something on the body of Christ that has trolled my thoughts ever since. </p>
<p>The conversation turned to the Eucharist, and several of the Jewish folks present were making comments about eucharist-ish elements of Jewish life and worship in an appreciative manner. One Christian fellow made some fairly benign comment about the body metaphor in this connection, and pretty quickly a Jewish woman stood and suggested that &#8220;body&#8221; imagery tends to make Jews very nervous. This was confirmed by several of the other Jewish folks in the room. </p>
<p>I took that nervousness to be rooted in memories of Christendom (and the vestiges of Christendom) in which Jews, as paradigmatic others, are seen as a contagion, a foreign body to be expelled from &#8220;the body.&#8221; </p>
<p>Ever since, I&#8217;ve thought that it would be worthwhile to think carefully through the body metaphor in relationship to continuity/discontinuity between the people of God in the church and the people of God in Israel. Particularly in the theological connection between the Jewish body of Jesus (circumcised and baptized by John) and the mystical body of Christ in the church. </p>
<p>Jenson has some comments in a Pro Ecclesia article from a few years back that regard the metaphor as a positive site for overcoming supercessionistic thinking, but I&#8217;ve seen little else (not that I&#8217;ve been looking <i>real</i> hard.</p>
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		<title>By: roger flyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>roger flyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you came around, R.O.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you came around, R.O.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure its on your list already, but Michel de Certaeu&#039;s The Mystic Fable has a good chapter on this, expanding on de Lubac&#039;s Corpus Mysticum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure its on your list already, but Michel de Certaeu&#8217;s The Mystic Fable has a good chapter on this, expanding on de Lubac&#8217;s Corpus Mysticum.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Grataski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Grataski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would very much like to see such a guest post.  Is Aldolfs&#039; book a Holy Saturday type book like Alan Lewis&#039; book?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would very much like to see such a guest post.  Is Aldolfs&#8217; book a Holy Saturday type book like Alan Lewis&#8217; book?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Grataski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Grataski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reminders:
Nicholas Healy&#039;s book, Church, World and the Christian Life
Tripp York&#039;s work, including the early chapters of the anarchism book
Precarious Peace
Barry Harvey
and there are interesting essays by John Webster and Jamie Smith in &quot;Community of the Word&quot;(?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reminders:<br />
Nicholas Healy&#8217;s book, Church, World and the Christian Life<br />
Tripp York&#8217;s work, including the early chapters of the anarchism book<br />
Precarious Peace<br />
Barry Harvey<br />
and there are interesting essays by John Webster and Jamie Smith in &#8220;Community of the Word&#8221;(?)</p>
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		<title>By: adhunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>adhunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, Charles Gore&#039;s &quot;The Body of Christ&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, Charles Gore&#8217;s &#8220;The Body of Christ&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I think engaging LG is probably a lot more fruitful that Mystici Corporis Christi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I think engaging LG is probably a lot more fruitful that Mystici Corporis Christi.</p>
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		<title>By: R.O. Flyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>R.O. Flyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or you could simply save yourself some time and reproduce everything N.T. Wright says because he&#039;s right about everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or you could simply save yourself some time and reproduce everything N.T. Wright says because he&#8217;s right about everything.</p>
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		<title>By: R.O. Flyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>R.O. Flyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say that Lumen Gentium is probably the most important text written for contemporary Catholic ecclesiology. Of course it&#039;s a council text, so it covers a wide diversity of opinions. 

But really, you should probably re-read some Sanctorum Communio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say that Lumen Gentium is probably the most important text written for contemporary Catholic ecclesiology. Of course it&#8217;s a council text, so it covers a wide diversity of opinions. </p>
<p>But really, you should probably re-read some Sanctorum Communio.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Church&quot; by G.C. Berkouwer

For a &quot;classical Reformed&quot; eccleisology, MIchael Horton &quot;People and Place&quot; (it won an award from Christianity Today, which may or may not say much about it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Church&#8221; by G.C. Berkouwer</p>
<p>For a &#8220;classical Reformed&#8221; eccleisology, MIchael Horton &#8220;People and Place&#8221; (it won an award from Christianity Today, which may or may not say much about it).</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Halden,

Tonight I am planning on finishing Webster&#039;s dogmatic treatment of holiness.  He devotes a chapter to the church, &amp; while he doesn&#039;t address the idea of the body of Christ directly for the most part, his perspective on the church is quite germane to this discussion.  As I was reading it, the dialogue from the comments here kept popping up in my mind.  

I would love to write up a post on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Halden,</p>
<p>Tonight I am planning on finishing Webster&#8217;s dogmatic treatment of holiness.  He devotes a chapter to the church, &amp; while he doesn&#8217;t address the idea of the body of Christ directly for the most part, his perspective on the church is quite germane to this discussion.  As I was reading it, the dialogue from the comments here kept popping up in my mind.  </p>
<p>I would love to write up a post on this.</p>
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		<title>By: roger flyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>roger flyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This should be a rich string. Nice to get a fresh start on the year, Halden. And smart to invite in your thoughtful readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This should be a rich string. Nice to get a fresh start on the year, Halden. And smart to invite in your thoughtful readers.</p>
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		<title>By: adhunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>adhunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course you&#039;ve read most and disagreed with most of it, but would we not be amiss to not mention the work of Graham Ward, especially Cities of God; and John Milbank, especially as he has expanded on the work of Bulgakov.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course you&#8217;ve read most and disagreed with most of it, but would we not be amiss to not mention the work of Graham Ward, especially Cities of God; and John Milbank, especially as he has expanded on the work of Bulgakov.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly I think it would be good to revisit Fr. Robert Aldolfs (The Grave of God) and Donald MacKinnon (The Stripping of the Altars, among others), and maybe even Dorothee Soelle (I&#039;m thinking, in particular, of Christ the representative). 

I&#039;d be happy to contribute a small something on the kenotic body of Christ--especially with Lent and Holy Week looming on the horizon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly I think it would be good to revisit Fr. Robert Aldolfs (The Grave of God) and Donald MacKinnon (The Stripping of the Altars, among others), and maybe even Dorothee Soelle (I&#8217;m thinking, in particular, of Christ the representative). </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be happy to contribute a small something on the kenotic body of Christ&#8211;especially with Lent and Holy Week looming on the horizon.</p>
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