Comments on: Anabaptists and Ecumenism http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2010/07/28/anabaptists-and-ecumenism/ Where youthful Barthianism never dies Mon, 06 Feb 2012 21:24:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bud Atwood http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2010/07/28/anabaptists-and-ecumenism/comment-page-1/#comment-16502 Bud Atwood Tue, 21 Sep 2010 01:48:28 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=3918#comment-16502 Hill, where can I read something about the RC idea of "corporeal works of mercy," esp. as it relates to ecumenism? Thanks. Hill, where can I read something about the RC idea of “corporeal works of mercy,” esp. as it relates to ecumenism? Thanks.

]]> By: Daniel Imburgia http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2010/07/28/anabaptists-and-ecumenism/comment-page-1/#comment-16493 Daniel Imburgia Sat, 18 Sep 2010 03:24:33 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=3918#comment-16493 Talk about “ecumenical awesomeness,” seem like only yesterday we were scraping Thomas More’s brains off the floor and here I am watching a live video cast of the Pope at Westminster Abbey! It’s just a matter of time before we ‘bridgefolks’ get Benedict’s picture on a box of oatmeal! Talk about “ecumenical awesomeness,” seem like only yesterday we were scraping Thomas More’s brains off the floor and here I am watching a live video cast of the Pope at Westminster Abbey! It’s just a matter of time before we ‘bridgefolks’ get Benedict’s picture on a box of oatmeal!

]]> By: joel mason http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2010/07/28/anabaptists-and-ecumenism/comment-page-1/#comment-16316 joel mason Mon, 30 Aug 2010 05:23:59 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=3918#comment-16316 R.O. Flyer and I attended a Bridgefolk gathering and one of the leaders led a session in which he put the martyr's mirror and the lives of the saints on stands next to each other. he then proceeded to tell stories from each (complete with pictures in the mirror of mennonites being burned while dominicans looked on with approval). he ended in tears, saying something like "we have to do something about these stories, this history, we have to connect about it. until we do, i'm not sure what ecumenism means." now that's realism. R.O. Flyer and I attended a Bridgefolk gathering and one of the leaders led a session in which he put the martyr’s mirror and the lives of the saints on stands next to each other. he then proceeded to tell stories from each (complete with pictures in the mirror of mennonites being burned while dominicans looked on with approval). he ended in tears, saying something like “we have to do something about these stories, this history, we have to connect about it. until we do, i’m not sure what ecumenism means.” now that’s realism.

]]> By: Tripp http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2010/07/28/anabaptists-and-ecumenism/comment-page-1/#comment-16305 Tripp Tue, 24 Aug 2010 00:57:43 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=3918#comment-16305 There seems to be a (slight) trend among Anabaptist theologians who study the 4-15th centuries to convert to Catholicism. Do with that what you will, but it has always been something of an inside joke of sorts--based on some truth. Yes, Bridgefolk is an attempt to highlight the importance of unity within the church as well as consider what would have to happen in order to fully come together. I've only been to one actual conference so I can't say much. The only thing I remember is this awesome Irish priest/monk, whose accent was totally indiscernible, and he had the coolest superhero-type robes ever, and he kept falling asleep during our conversations. Apparently, his robes did not protect him from the Mennonite practice of long-winded speeches. There seems to be a (slight) trend among Anabaptist theologians who study the 4-15th centuries to convert to Catholicism. Do with that what you will, but it has always been something of an inside joke of sorts–based on some truth. Yes, Bridgefolk is an attempt to highlight the importance of unity within the church as well as consider what would have to happen in order to fully come together. I’ve only been to one actual conference so I can’t say much. The only thing I remember is this awesome Irish priest/monk, whose accent was totally indiscernible, and he had the coolest superhero-type robes ever, and he kept falling asleep during our conversations. Apparently, his robes did not protect him from the Mennonite practice of long-winded speeches.

]]> By: Myles http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2010/07/28/anabaptists-and-ecumenism/comment-page-1/#comment-16290 Myles Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:02:09 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=3918#comment-16290 He's done a wide variety of things: Augustine, ecumenism, a peacemaking effort called Just Policing....so, I don't know if there's a work that's "representative". He's a Mennonite convert to Catholicism, and leads--as others have noted--a group called Bridgefolk, a Catholic-Mennonite dialogue. I can't speak to his reception, but I tend to like his stuff; I just thought the "Protestant Principle" wasn't necessarily the place to begin for a critique of Protestant thought; Tillich's ecclesiology isn't the strongest among Protestants, so if we're going to argue ecclesiology, why begin with the PP as the best Protestant ecclesiology has to offer? He’s done a wide variety of things: Augustine, ecumenism, a peacemaking effort called Just Policing….so, I don’t know if there’s a work that’s “representative”. He’s a Mennonite convert to Catholicism, and leads–as others have noted–a group called Bridgefolk, a Catholic-Mennonite dialogue. I can’t speak to his reception, but I tend to like his stuff; I just thought the “Protestant Principle” wasn’t necessarily the place to begin for a critique of Protestant thought; Tillich’s ecclesiology isn’t the strongest among Protestants, so if we’re going to argue ecclesiology, why begin with the PP as the best Protestant ecclesiology has to offer?

]]> By: Daniel Imburgia http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2010/07/28/anabaptists-and-ecumenism/comment-page-1/#comment-16285 Daniel Imburgia Tue, 10 Aug 2010 01:17:28 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=3918#comment-16285 I ordered the one called "Unlearning protestantism." Is that representative of his work? How is he/it received by Mennonites, for the most part? I ordered the one called “Unlearning protestantism.” Is that representative of his work? How is he/it received by Mennonites, for the most part?

]]> By: Myles http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2010/07/28/anabaptists-and-ecumenism/comment-page-1/#comment-16284 Myles Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:01:14 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=3918#comment-16284 You mean his most recent book on Protestantism? I thought the book on the whole was good, but his "Protestant Principle" he opposes, as exemplified in Tillich, seemed to be a straw man. You mean his most recent book on Protestantism? I thought the book on the whole was good, but his “Protestant Principle” he opposes, as exemplified in Tillich, seemed to be a straw man.

]]> By: Daniel Imburgia http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2010/07/28/anabaptists-and-ecumenism/comment-page-1/#comment-16283 Daniel Imburgia Mon, 09 Aug 2010 04:05:10 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=3918#comment-16283 Thanks so much for the info Andrew, I had no idea there was a movement like "Bridgefolk." And I haden't heard of Schlabach. I have ordered his book (have any here read it?) and I would be interested in what any Mennonites here about think of 'Bridgework' and Schlabach. So, for any Mennonites thinking of converting here is a story from last week. A woman that works at the deli where i get lunch is also a altar server at the local RCC, she serves with her husband and 14 yr old daughter. I mentioned to her how pleased I was to see her whole family serving. She said they enjoy it, and with the whole family involved she doesn't have to worry about her daughter being left alone with the priest, oh vey. Thanks so much for the info Andrew, I had no idea there was a movement like “Bridgefolk.” And I haden’t heard of Schlabach. I have ordered his book (have any here read it?) and I would be interested in what any Mennonites here about think of ‘Bridgework’ and Schlabach. So, for any Mennonites thinking of converting here is a story from last week. A woman that works at the deli where i get lunch is also a altar server at the local RCC, she serves with her husband and 14 yr old daughter. I mentioned to her how pleased I was to see her whole family serving. She said they enjoy it, and with the whole family involved she doesn’t have to worry about her daughter being left alone with the priest, oh vey.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2010/07/28/anabaptists-and-ecumenism/comment-page-1/#comment-16282 Andrew Sun, 08 Aug 2010 21:34:06 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=3918#comment-16282 You may (or may not) find it interesting to know that the founder of "Bridgefolk," Gerald Schlabach eventually became Catholic as a direct result of dialog with "peace-minded" Catholics through the work of Bridgefolk. You may (or may not) find it interesting to know that the founder of “Bridgefolk,” Gerald Schlabach eventually became Catholic as a direct result of dialog with “peace-minded” Catholics through the work of Bridgefolk.

]]> By: Daniel Imburgia http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2010/07/28/anabaptists-and-ecumenism/comment-page-1/#comment-16271 Daniel Imburgia Wed, 04 Aug 2010 23:10:21 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=3918#comment-16271 In another devastating blow to Christian unity, Anne Rice has "Quit the church." One can find one pastor's response here: http://blog.sojo.net/ at Sojourners. There are rumors she has been spotted at Driscoll's church @ Mars Hill. Enticed away from Catholicism by Driscoll's latest defense of Christian cage fighting and the transubstantiating possibilities of his jumbotrons, see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddFbELpXTcg&playnext=1&videos=jCJFTemnygE I reckon you Mennonites are gloating a bit here, from her interviews she sounds like she has been reading a bit of Yoder, be a pretty feather in your cap and a way to stick it 'Il Papa' if y'all could reel her in! In another devastating blow to Christian unity, Anne Rice has “Quit the church.” One can find one pastor’s response here: http://blog.sojo.net/ at Sojourners. There are rumors she has been spotted at Driscoll’s church @ Mars Hill. Enticed away from Catholicism by Driscoll’s latest defense of Christian cage fighting and the transubstantiating possibilities of his jumbotrons, see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddFbELpXTcg&playnext=1&videos=jCJFTemnygE I reckon you Mennonites are gloating a bit here, from her interviews she sounds like she has been reading a bit of Yoder, be a pretty feather in your cap and a way to stick it ‘Il Papa’ if y’all could reel her in!

]]> By: myles http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2010/07/28/anabaptists-and-ecumenism/comment-page-1/#comment-16268 myles Tue, 03 Aug 2010 13:59:01 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=3918#comment-16268 Who knew that potlucks were the ultimate example of ecumenism? Who knew that potlucks were the ultimate example of ecumenism?

]]> By: Chris Donato http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2010/07/28/anabaptists-and-ecumenism/comment-page-1/#comment-16264 Chris Donato Sun, 01 Aug 2010 19:14:21 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=3918#comment-16264 I think you're right to look askance at such things, Halden. It appears disingenuous, not least because there has been vibrant non-violent or pacifist movements within the other (larger) branches of the Christian church. Why don't those Catholics (or Anglicans) point to their own pre-medieval (or post-Reformation) past? It's in there! The added benefit would be promoting non-violence on its own biblical and traditional terms, rather than facing the very real accusation that we're making light of the deep divisions between Anabaptists, et al. In other words, Anabaptists don't own pacifism. I think you’re right to look askance at such things, Halden. It appears disingenuous, not least because there has been vibrant non-violent or pacifist movements within the other (larger) branches of the Christian church. Why don’t those Catholics (or Anglicans) point to their own pre-medieval (or post-Reformation) past? It’s in there!

The added benefit would be promoting non-violence on its own biblical and traditional terms, rather than facing the very real accusation that we’re making light of the deep divisions between Anabaptists, et al. In other words, Anabaptists don’t own pacifism.

]]> By: Andy Alexis-Baker http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2010/07/28/anabaptists-and-ecumenism/comment-page-1/#comment-16258 Andy Alexis-Baker Sat, 31 Jul 2010 04:17:53 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=3918#comment-16258 wonderful post. wonderful post.

]]> By: R.O. Flyer http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2010/07/28/anabaptists-and-ecumenism/comment-page-1/#comment-16254 R.O. Flyer Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:28:36 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=3918#comment-16254 This is hilarious. This is hilarious.

]]> By: DCL Driedger http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2010/07/28/anabaptists-and-ecumenism/comment-page-1/#comment-16252 DCL Driedger Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:06:28 +0000 http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/?p=3918#comment-16252 <i>The Gift of Difference</i> is quite relevant to this discussion. This thread greatly influenced my reflections on it. I just put up the fist part of a review today. The book has many limitations but exhibits a type of space where no middle ground is presupposed and in the end very little is found. This is done however with no 'call to arms' against the one in dialogue with . . . at least Milbank has not issued it yet! The Gift of Difference is quite relevant to this discussion. This thread greatly influenced my reflections on it. I just put up the fist part of a review today. The book has many limitations but exhibits a type of space where no middle ground is presupposed and in the end very little is found. This is done however with no ‘call to arms’ against the one in dialogue with . . . at least Milbank has not issued it yet!

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